Immature, low, vile-yah right-you support the troops

Here are some links to different articles on the New York Times discounted ad (discounted$116,000- American dollars) to the Move on organization in their unprofessional, personal, immature, low, vile attack on Gen. David Petraeus. The NYT has been consistent in their lack of support to the troops, their families and those in authority. What is interesting to note is the (lack of) reaction of our elected representatives – those people who have said: “they support the troops” in not denouncing this unethical ad and not showing ANY support to the General and the troops. (for example: “the surge is working not because of the troops”…-Chuck Schumer) Their unprofessional behavior, lack of standard of conduct, disrespect and contempt was demonstrated in their presentations. Important to remember**the military does not make policy**–they just follow the orders that are given to them.

Wikipedia-mini biography of General David Petraeus and the said NYT/Move on ad.

from and their rational for this personal attack:

Code of Ethics for Government Service:

From New York Times Code of Ethics (57 pages long)

“The goal of The New York Times is to cover the news as
impartially as possible — “without fear or favor,” in the words
of Adolph Ochs, our patriarch — and to treat readers, news
sources, advertisers and others fairly and openly, and to be
seen to be doing so. The reputation of The Times rests upon
such perceptions, and so do the professional reputations of
its staff members. Thus The Times and members of its news
department and editorial page staff share an interest in avoiding
conflicts of interest or an appearance of a conflict.” (page 3)


2 Responses to “Immature, low, vile-yah right-you support the troops”

  1. olotliny Says:

    Here it is 10 days after the slander of General Petraeus and the Senators (we have 2 per state=100) have voted either against the Move on ad with 72 “yea” vote or not opposed – to the ad 25″nay” votes (3 didn’t vote).

    The delay of response/statement of position (brought on by pressure from the American people to voice/clarify their views on this “ad”) and the votes speak volumes about our Senators and their “support of our volunteer troops” and those that lead them.,2933,297498,00.html

    U.S. Senate Roll Call Votes 110th Congress – 1st Session

    as compiled through Senate LIS by the Senate Bill Clerk under the direction of the Secretary of the Senate

    Vote Summary

    Question: On the Amendment (Cornyn Amdt. No. 2934 )
    Vote Number: 344 Vote Date: September 20, 2007, 12:36 PM
    Required For Majority: 3/5 Vote Result: Amendment Agreed to
    Amendment Number: S.Amdt. 2934 to S.Amdt. 2011 to H.R. 1585 (National Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2008)
    Statement of Purpose: To express the sense of the Senate that General David H. Petraeus, Commanding General, Multi-National Force-Iraq, deserves the full support of the Senate and strongly condemn personal attacks on the honor and integrity of General Petraeus and all members of the United States Armed Forces.
    Vote Counts: YEAs 72
    NAYs 25
    Not Voting 3
    Vote Summary By Senator Name By Vote Position By Home State

    Alphabetical by Senator Name
    Akaka (D-HI), Nay
    Alexander (R-TN), Yea
    Allard (R-CO), Yea
    Barrasso (R-WY), Yea
    Baucus (D-MT), Yea
    Bayh (D-IN), Yea
    Bennett (R-UT), Yea
    Biden (D-DE), Not Voting
    Bingaman (D-NM), Nay
    Bond (R-MO), Yea
    Boxer (D-CA), Nay
    Brown (D-OH), Nay
    Brownback (R-KS), Yea
    Bunning (R-KY), Yea
    Burr (R-NC), Yea
    Byrd (D-WV), Nay
    Cantwell (D-WA), Not Voting
    Cardin (D-MD), Yea
    Carper (D-DE), Yea
    Casey (D-PA), Yea
    Chambliss (R-GA), Yea
    Clinton (D-NY), Nay
    Coburn (R-OK), Yea
    Cochran (R-MS), Yea
    Coleman (R-MN), Yea
    Collins (R-ME), Yea
    Conrad (D-ND), Yea
    Corker (R-TN), Yea
    Cornyn (R-TX), Yea
    Craig (R-ID), Yea
    Crapo (R-ID), Yea
    DeMint (R-SC), Yea
    Dodd (D-CT), Nay
    Dole (R-NC), Yea
    Domenici (R-NM), Yea
    Dorgan (D-ND), Yea
    Durbin (D-IL), Nay
    Ensign (R-NV), Yea
    Enzi (R-WY), Yea
    Feingold (D-WI), Nay
    Feinstein (D-CA), Yea
    Graham (R-SC), Yea
    Grassley (R-IA), Yea
    Gregg (R-NH), Yea
    Hagel (R-NE), Yea
    Harkin (D-IA), Nay
    Hatch (R-UT), Yea
    Hutchison (R-TX), Yea
    Inhofe (R-OK), Yea
    Inouye (D-HI), Nay
    Isakson (R-GA), Yea
    Johnson (D-SD), Yea
    Kennedy (D-MA), Nay
    Kerry (D-MA), Nay
    Klobuchar (D-MN), Yea
    Kohl (D-WI), Yea
    Kyl (R-AZ), Yea
    Landrieu (D-LA), Yea
    Lautenberg (D-NJ), Nay
    Leahy (D-VT), Yea
    Levin (D-MI), Nay
    Lieberman (ID-CT), Yea
    Lincoln (D-AR), Yea
    Lott (R-MS), Yea
    Lugar (R-IN), Yea
    Martinez (R-FL), Yea
    McCain (R-AZ), Yea
    McCaskill (D-MO), Yea
    McConnell (R-KY), Yea
    Menendez (D-NJ), Nay
    Mikulski (D-MD), Yea
    Murkowski (R-AK), Yea
    Murray (D-WA), Nay
    Nelson (D-FL), Yea
    Nelson (D-NE), Yea
    Obama (D-IL), Not Voting
    Pryor (D-AR), Yea
    Reed (D-RI), Nay
    Reid (D-NV), Nay
    Roberts (R-KS), Yea
    Rockefeller (D-WV), Nay
    Salazar (D-CO), Yea
    Sanders (I-VT), Nay
    Schumer (D-NY), Nay
    Sessions (R-AL), Yea
    Shelby (R-AL), Yea
    Smith (R-OR), Yea
    Snowe (R-ME), Yea
    Specter (R-PA), Yea
    Stabenow (D-MI), Nay
    Stevens (R-AK), Yea
    Sununu (R-NH), Yea
    Tester (D-MT), Yea
    Thune (R-SD), Yea
    Vitter (R-LA), Yea
    Voinovich (R-OH), Yea
    Warner (R-VA), Yea
    Webb (D-VA), Yea
    Whitehouse (D-RI), Nay
    Wyden (D-OR), Nay
    Vote Summary By Senator Name By Vote Position By Home State

    Grouped By Vote Position
    YEAs —72
    Alexander (R-TN)
    Allard (R-CO)
    Barrasso (R-WY)
    Baucus (D-MT)
    Bayh (D-IN)
    Bennett (R-UT)
    Bond (R-MO)
    Brownback (R-KS)
    Bunning (R-KY)
    Burr (R-NC)
    Cardin (D-MD)
    Carper (D-DE)
    Casey (D-PA)
    Chambliss (R-GA)
    Coburn (R-OK)
    Cochran (R-MS)
    Coleman (R-MN)
    Collins (R-ME)
    Conrad (D-ND)
    Corker (R-TN)
    Cornyn (R-TX)
    Craig (R-ID)
    Crapo (R-ID)
    DeMint (R-SC)
    Dole (R-NC)
    Domenici (R-NM)
    Dorgan (D-ND)
    Ensign (R-NV)
    Enzi (R-WY)
    Feinstein (D-CA)
    Graham (R-SC)
    Grassley (R-IA)
    Gregg (R-NH)
    Hagel (R-NE)
    Hatch (R-UT)
    Hutchison (R-TX)
    Inhofe (R-OK)
    Isakson (R-GA)
    Johnson (D-SD)
    Klobuchar (D-MN)
    Kohl (D-WI)
    Kyl (R-AZ)
    Landrieu (D-LA)
    Leahy (D-VT)
    Lieberman (ID-CT)
    Lincoln (D-AR)
    Lott (R-MS)
    Lugar (R-IN)
    Martinez (R-FL)
    McCain (R-AZ)
    McCaskill (D-MO)
    McConnell (R-KY)
    Mikulski (D-MD)
    Murkowski (R-AK)
    Nelson (D-FL)
    Nelson (D-NE)
    Pryor (D-AR)
    Roberts (R-KS)
    Salazar (D-CO)
    Sessions (R-AL)
    Shelby (R-AL)
    Smith (R-OR)
    Snowe (R-ME)
    Specter (R-PA)
    Stevens (R-AK)
    Sununu (R-NH)
    Tester (D-MT)
    Thune (R-SD)
    Vitter (R-LA)
    Voinovich (R-OH)
    Warner (R-VA)
    Webb (D-VA)
    NAYs —25
    Akaka (D-HI)
    Bingaman (D-NM)
    Boxer (D-CA)
    Brown (D-OH)
    Byrd (D-WV)
    Clinton (D-NY)
    Dodd (D-CT)
    Durbin (D-IL)
    Feingold (D-WI)
    Harkin (D-IA)
    Inouye (D-HI)
    Kennedy (D-MA)
    Kerry (D-MA)
    Lautenberg (D-NJ)
    Levin (D-MI)
    Menendez (D-NJ)
    Murray (D-WA)
    Reed (D-RI)
    Reid (D-NV)
    Rockefeller (D-WV)
    Sanders (I-VT)
    Schumer (D-NY)
    Stabenow (D-MI)
    Whitehouse (D-RI)
    Wyden (D-OR)
    Not Voting – 3
    Biden (D-DE)
    Cantwell (D-WA)
    Obama (D-IL)

  2. olotliny Says:

    Here is a link to just 1 of many articles where the New York Times (newspaper) admits to their very discounted price to Move on for their full page attack on General David Petraeus.

    (for me-too little-too late… our men/women who serve read the papers, watch the news, as do their families—-all this during the fourth year of a war…….treason encaptulates their modus operandi.,0,4525747.story?coll=ny_home_rail_headlines

    New York Times gave ‘price break’ on ad berating Petraeus

    11:33 PM EDT, September 23, 2007

    WASHINGTON – The New York Times gave an unwarranted $77,000 “price break” to liberal on its Sept. 10 full-page ad berating Army Gen. David Petraeus after all, the newspaper admitted Sunday.

    After two weeks of saying it had given no special discount, the Times’ Public Editor Clark Hoyt revealed Sunday that the paper should have charged a $142,083 fixed-date rate instead of the $64,575 “seven-day standby” rate it did. executive director Eli Pariser insisted his political action group thought it had gotten a standard rate when it paid $65,000 for the ad, but said it would wire the Times the $77,083 difference today.

    The Times’ admission is certain to revive the ad controversy just as it was dying out, and could affect a federal probe.

    The American Conservative Union has filed a complaint with the Federal Election Commission, charging the Times’ lower rate was an illegal campaign donation to

    In his column yesterday, Hoyt said the Times also violated a policy against ads containing “attacks of a personal nature” by accepting the ad copy, titled “General Petraeus or General Betray Us?”

    “I think the ad violated The Times’ own written standards, and the paper now says that the advertiser got a price break it was not entitled to,” he said.

    Times spokeswoman Catherine Mathis told Hoyt, “We made a mistake.”

    Mathis blamed the ad department.

    Pariser told Hoyt that called the Times on Friday, Sept. 7, asking for a rush ad for the following Monday when Petraeus would go to Capitol Hill to give his Iraq war report.

    The ad representative said there was room Monday and it would cost $65,000 — without saying that “standby rate” did not guarantee a certain day, but simply one day of the Times’ choosing in a seven-day period.

    Not only did the representative fail to spell that out, Mathis said, but he “left with the understanding that the ad would run” that Monday.

    Pariser called on Republican presidential candidate Rudy Giuliani, who demanded and got the same low rate from the Times for his own Sept. 14 ad attacking, to also pay the more than $77,000 difference.

    But Giuliani spokeswoman Katie Levinson replied, “While we appreciate that The New York Times and have both publicly acknowledged their sweetheart deal, no amount of money will make right this misguided ploy attacking a general in a time of war.”

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